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		<title>By: Nick Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 13:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Dave,

The caption attribute isn't valid on the table element. it fails W3 validation for XHTML Transitional/Strict. Everything else is great though :)

Cheers,
Nick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Dave,</p>
<p>The caption attribute isn&#8217;t valid on the table element. it fails W3 validation for XHTML Transitional/Strict. Everything else is great though <img src='http://themaingate.net/dev/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Nick</p>
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		<dc:creator>HTML Table Elements and SEO – The Complete HTML Reference Guide for SEO – Part II</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2011 19:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you should semantically markup your tables. David Calhoun wrote a good piece of article on how to create the perfect semantic html. Here&#8217;s how the table looks like:The Perfect Semantic TableRead the article, then go and make [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ted Clayton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted Clayton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2010 23:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too have made webpages for a long time, mostly 'wrong', no doubt. ;)

But I have learned the proper CSS, semantic methods, in recent years.

I work in construction, etc, for a living, and computers, programming and web authoring are all sidelines.

By the time a person has to make a really serious commitment to a topic (ie, can't do anything else) in order to participate or practice it, it becomes less interesting to me.

In fact, I like to do a lot of different things, don't want to be restricted to one or a few of them ... and I like to work in avenues that tend to strengthen that outlook.

After doing table-presentation in the early years (and adding some CSS to make it more maintainable) I was confronted by the 'tables are wrong' campaign.  I could see the argument (non-semantic), but I had difficulty with the CSS.

I also saw that folks who were web-authoring-naive, could fairly easily pick up table-presentation, while CSS presentation did not lend itself nearly so well to usage by 'lightweights'.

As time has passed, CSS has matured and standardized far less quickly &#38; well, than other web paradigms.  Pushing a decade now, and it's still messy, on top of being more challenging that table-presentation.

As my abilities have gradually improved, and I've come to understand the 'semantic web' better &#38; more-clearly, I've gradually realized that it *should* be possible to do a good deal of perfectly semantic work, within tables.

In your post here, you are talking about making *tabular* content semantic.  That is different from the semantic issues of typical narrative content, etc, tho, it seems to me, hardly prohibitive of the later.

Do you know of any degree of acceptance of the idea of using tables for presentation, while honoring the laudable semantic goals?

Thanks!  Ted</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too have made webpages for a long time, mostly &#8216;wrong&#8217;, no doubt. <img src='http://themaingate.net/dev/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>But I have learned the proper CSS, semantic methods, in recent years.</p>
<p>I work in construction, etc, for a living, and computers, programming and web authoring are all sidelines.</p>
<p>By the time a person has to make a really serious commitment to a topic (ie, can&#8217;t do anything else) in order to participate or practice it, it becomes less interesting to me.</p>
<p>In fact, I like to do a lot of different things, don&#8217;t want to be restricted to one or a few of them &#8230; and I like to work in avenues that tend to strengthen that outlook.</p>
<p>After doing table-presentation in the early years (and adding some CSS to make it more maintainable) I was confronted by the &#8216;tables are wrong&#8217; campaign.  I could see the argument (non-semantic), but I had difficulty with the CSS.</p>
<p>I also saw that folks who were web-authoring-naive, could fairly easily pick up table-presentation, while CSS presentation did not lend itself nearly so well to usage by &#8216;lightweights&#8217;.</p>
<p>As time has passed, CSS has matured and standardized far less quickly &#38; well, than other web paradigms.  Pushing a decade now, and it&#8217;s still messy, on top of being more challenging that table-presentation.</p>
<p>As my abilities have gradually improved, and I&#8217;ve come to understand the &#8217;semantic web&#8217; better &#38; more-clearly, I&#8217;ve gradually realized that it *should* be possible to do a good deal of perfectly semantic work, within tables.</p>
<p>In your post here, you are talking about making *tabular* content semantic.  That is different from the semantic issues of typical narrative content, etc, tho, it seems to me, hardly prohibitive of the later.</p>
<p>Do you know of any degree of acceptance of the idea of using tables for presentation, while honoring the laudable semantic goals?</p>
<p>Thanks!  Ted</p>
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		<title>By: Paris Vega</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paris Vega</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the knowledge. I'm using this new web wisdom in a project as we speak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the knowledge. I&#8217;m using this new web wisdom in a project as we speak.</p>
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